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Russell Zanca is a professor of anthropology at Northeastern Illinois University, focusing on Central Asia. He lived in a town outside the Uzbekistan city of Namangan for 18 months during the 1993-1994.

The U.S. is in a fresh embrace with Uzbekistan, the best pathway for military supplies to Afghanistan if your fuel trucks keep getting blown up using the Pakistan route. In a visit over the weekend, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Uzbek President Islam Karimov that he ought to stop brutalizing his people, but that in any case the U.S. appreciates his help with Afghanistan (above, Mrs. Clinton visits a General Motors plant in Tashkent). And in a phone call at the end of last month, President Barack Obama congratulated Karimov on Uzbek independence 20 years after the Soviet collapse.

The object of Obama's interest is the "Northern Distribution Network," the Central Asian roads over which diesel and other U.S. military supplies now increasingly travel. The Administration is correct in thinking that NDN, as it is known for short,  will run more smoothly through secular Uzbekistan than supplies have moved through Pakistan. But a question for practitioners of realpolitik is why the U.S.  considers it  necessary to validate the unpopular Uzbek leadership now that it is politically expedient to do so. Where is the U.S. focus on the future of its relations with the nations of Central Asia?

During the past two weeks or so, a number of interesting pieces on the subject have appeared on blogs that focus on Central Asian affairs, including Registan.net, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Eurasianet.org and Ferghana.ru. Mostly the thrust is that the Karimov regime appears beyond redemption because of gross and sustained violations of human rights and human freedoms, torture of its citizens, and the employment of children in its cotton fields and textile plants. The reporting, allegations, and documentation are not new, but they serve to highlight a reality of doing business with Uzbekistan: Presidents Obama and Karimov said a renewed relationship will further peace, prosperity, stability, and the advancement of democracy in Uzbekistan; but after two decades of such claims from the Clinton to the Bush and now the Obama administrations, does anybody truly believe it will be different this time around?

There is at least one: Joshua Foust of Registan, who knows Karimov is a tyrant, but feels this is a politically and strategically smart move for the U.S. Foust argues that because Karimov is committed to a secular state, he is one of the few regional leaders whose views coincide with America's. Furthermore, he thinks it guarantees the best possible benefit in terms of regional partnerships and greater success for the U.S. war in Afghanistan.

Like-minded thinkers see Uzbek military forces as competent and trustworthy military partners. Furthermore, Foust himself asserts that there are times when cooperation between U.S. military forces and even those of authoritarian states, such as Hosni Mubarak's Egypt, lead to a softening of how military and police forces handle domestic disturbances.

I am wondering if this was manifest in how Egyptian police recently dealt with Coptic protesters in Cairo. Those who think similarly must know that U.S. and Uzbek military forces have been working together since the mid-1990s, and yet in 2005 Uzbek military units had no compunction about killing hundreds of their countrymen in the city of Andijan. If these examples show that U.S. engagement improves the conduct of the armed forces of dictatorships, I suppose I simply don't grasp how awful these armed forces might behave without our assistance and cooperation.

My point is that so far the U.S. has had virtually no influence over Karimov's foreign or domestic policies. So what would prompt him to change tack now, especially given that the Obama call appeared to be desperate? Is the gamble worth the risk of a fresh loss of respect for the U.S. among ordinary Uzbeks?

Elsewhere, I have written that the Uzbek regime practices domestic terrorism. Citizens who dare to complain about poverty, corruption and religious persecution routinely experience psychological and physical torments at the hands of state authorities, including the planting of narcotics on people and the beating of family members. These methods have been widely reported for more than a decade.

In cozying up to Karimov once again, the U.S. fights terrorism in Afghanistan by relying on terrorists in Tashkent.

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THEBUGPIT

3:09 PM ET

October 25, 2011

beyond redemption

As the writer of one of the pieces mentioned here, I want to point out that the point of mine was not that the Karimov government as "beyond redemption" or an a priori inappropriate ally, only that there are some inconsistencies in how the U.S. publicly justifies its Uzbekistan policy.

 

RUSSMAN

8:17 PM ET

October 25, 2011

beyond redemption

Fair enough.

You don't identify what you wrote, but the theme that Karmov and Co. are "beyond redemption" in terms of a useful and fruitful alliance is rather common.

Inconsistencies in U.S. policy toward Uzbekistan...100% agreed.

 

CHARLESFRITH

2:45 AM ET

October 26, 2011

Charles Frith

Isn't the common euphemism for fellating dictators till we shoot them 'stability'?

 

YANKEE

2:45 PM ET

October 26, 2011

Reality

AND we allied with Stalin in WWII in order to win another war. I guess some crazy people believe in saving yourself before you try to save everyone else on earth. What would happen to your life if you disregarded your physical safety in order to save others...you would die and so would all whom you want to save. We are presently trying to save the world by sorting out nuclear armed, terror supporting, Pakistan. Would you rather we just abondoned the war and dig a hole to bunker down in until nuclear proliferation is no longer a threat? Or is Nuclear proliferation really no big deal?

 

RUSSMAN

3:30 PM ET

October 26, 2011

reality

Oh, so this is all about nukes now? Haven't the Paks had nukes for a long time?

Why the tremendous urgency now to abandon them completely, and coddle the Uzbeks? When you awake tomorrow or the next day, you're still going to have to try and work with Pakistan.

Or are you suggesting we increase hostilities and attack Pakistan?

I do suggest that we are going to abandon Afghanistan sooner rather than later.

It's a good point about Stalin--a murderous tyrant of the highest level. But this isn't WW II.

 

PM_D

6:18 AM ET

October 27, 2011

Anthropological Studies based on Blogging :-)

I am afraid that even in Russia they know little about Stalin...
We are not in 70th, we are not on mid 90th. Why public perceptions are driven by 'anthopologists' refering to blogs like Ferhana.ru.

From http://www.facebook.com/CER.Uzbekistan

Askar Baybuzov: My point is that situation in Afghanistan after ISAF will leave the country will be very similar to early 90s: several major ethno-religious forces and central government without any support. That forces, especially Pushtu and Shiites, will look for external support and surely will find it in Pakistan and Iran. So the question is which political force will rule in 2014 in Pakistan: islamic fundamentalists, army or democratic party. May be Pakistan will be ruled by an army, and just as in 90s army will try to relaunch Taliban project (or something close).

??????? ????: Yes, these 'ethno-religious political' and 'geo-political' dimensions are important. But also the suggested shift from military focused approach to economic focused approach sounds promising both in terms of rehabilitation and longer term development both in Afg and in the entire region. But I am not sure if there is a clear road map. We probably should first of all confess – we know little about the economies in the region, often if not always pre-occupied by some standard perceptions about ‘stans’.

 

RANDY NICHOLSON

5:16 PM ET

November 1, 2011

War

It seems to me the intracies of the debate between human rights and expediance is best underscored by the conditions created by war. As Americans we have national values we use as a long term benchmark for nations to become our closest allies yet we often have to sacrifice these values for short term gain. As we have seen before this country has cozied to many unsavory characters in order to achieve specific short term goals, we have had no choice. Name the tyrant and you can see how our relationship was forged out of necessity. These circumstances were almost always an effort to bring about physical results from direct physical action. In other words war. If we cant get fuel to Af through Pak then we MUST take another route. We will probably need fuel there in 18 months so not really enough time to bring about the Uzbek spring nor form solid lasting institutions. War dictates we sacrifice long term relationships and national values for short term nebulous gains. War thereby is a distorting influence that, if continued, will create a foriegn policy based in reaction incapable of leading anybody much less the country for which it speaks.

 

RACHEAL

10:14 AM ET

November 16, 2011

reply

I am against any attack against either Pakistan or Iran even if it takes the name of lute against nuclear weapons
the crisis we are choking is the resulting output of this kind of war
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GULFCOZA

9:28 AM ET

November 22, 2011

just doing what they have to do

It boils down to the US not wanting their trucks continually being blown up while transporting fuel. Unfortunately in making it safer for them they now have to alley with tyrants. But until something better comes along that's what they will have to do!

 

Steve LeVine is the author of The Oil and the Glory and a longtime foreign correspondent.

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